Nick Fuentes vs The World - No Country for Old Rules

Why the kids have stopped listening

I watched the Piers Morgan v Nick Fuentes interview last night, convinced that Piers had done a fairly solid job. After scanning Twitter (meh, X), I had to go and watch it again.

Aaron Bastani had posted a short review that Morgan had crucified Fuentes, I added a comment generally agreeing with him, then a few hours later there were all these replies making fun of me.

Huh, what happened?

Looking at other posts there was a parallel reality and the dividing line was age.

So I watched the interview again, and it hit me, I wasn’t watching an interview, I was watching a game and both sides were playing by different rules.

I watched it like a dad. I watched it like Fuentes is my own son who’d gone off on a weird rebellious path, bright kid, saying wild things, completely unbothered by the consequences and me sitting there thinking “Fuck, where did I go wrong?”

And to be fair to Piers, he handled himself better than people expected, aside from the per-capita meltdown and the tampon nonsense, but he missed the point.

Two completely different worlds watching the same video.

One group: “Fuentes is a dangerous extremist.”

Another group: “Fuentes is our guy, haha, fuck the boomers.”

Same content. Totally different interpretations.

And that’s when it hit me again.

The old rules don’t work anymore.

All the stuff we were raised to believe: shame works, consequences matter, grown-ups set the tone, none of that applies in Fuentes’ world.

Fuentes isn’t trying to win over older people.

He couldn’t care less if we think he’s disgusting.

In fact, the more offended we are, the funnier it is for him. It’s fuel.

And for Gen Z, the institutions of politics, media and education lost their credibility long before Fuentes ever opened his mouth.

And that’s not their fault. That’s on us.

The Economic Stuff We Don’t Want to Admit

(Note: I’m British but I suspect there are similarities across the pond).

Before you even get to the cultural battles, we need to start with the basics, young people today are disadvantaged in ways Boomers never were.

• Housing? Impossible.

• Wages? Can I even get a job?

• Debt? Everywhere.

• Public services? Collapsing.

We had hope.

We sold their hope to not have recessions.

Let’s call it for what it is, politicians trading lies for votes and paying for it with debt (their future).

What did that do?

It took away the opportunity of owning a home, having kids and retiring. We told them work hard at school, get a degree and the world is yours. They followed the rules and now they’re working for Starbucks saddled with debt.

If you grew up believing everything was getting better, you behave one way.

If you grow up watching everything fall apart, you behave another.

This is the foundations of the nihilism. It’s not “online radicalisation.” It’s not “bad parenting.” It’s just a generation looking at the economy and realising the lift doesn’t go up for them.

Then We Added Moral Guilt

This part is important.

Most young white kids today grew up in environments that were genuinely diverse.

Racism wasn’t just frowned upon, it was a cultural taboo.

Yet schools hammered anti-racism into a world where racism wasn’t a thing for them, friend groups were already mixed. Their lives weren’t segregated.

Then somewhere around adulthood came the narrative “You are still part of the problem.”

Not because of what they said.

Not because of what they did.

But because of who they are, historically.

And they’re thinking: “wait… what? I wasn’t even born when any of this happened.”

It doesn’t matter that the older generations mean well. If your lived experience is “we all got along,” but the media tells you “you’re part of a racist structure,” you’re going to reject it.

Not because you’re a bigot, because it doesn’t match your reality.

Immigration: The Topic Everyone Lies About

And then there’s immigration, the subject everyone pretends is a moral test rather than a political failure.

It wasn’t 20-year-olds deciding to drop bombs on brown people for three decades.

It wasn’t them invading Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and everywhere else on the neocon world tour.

It wasn’t them destabilising entire regions because some politician wanted to look tough on TV.

And it certainly wasn’t them designing a global economy that extracts wealth from poorer countries so we can buy cheap crap.

But we now expect them to absorb the results and they’re telling us to fuck off.

The Boomers did it:

• Their politicians.

• Their foreign policy.

• Their trade deals.

• Their supply chains.

They broke other people’s countries and acted shocked when the people from those countries turned up at our borders.

And now Gen Z are the ones being called “fascists” because they’re the generation living with the actual consequences: the housing pressure, the school pressure, the cultural friction, while the people who created the problem sit comfortably in suburbs and gated communities saying, “Be kind.”

So when young people say, “We don’t want mass, unmanaged immigration,” they’re not being cruel. They’re not being racist. They’re not being fascists. They’re saying:

“Don’t make us clean up a mess we didn’t create.”

Fuentes Is Doing Theatre, Not Politics

This is the bit the media still doesn’t get. This is what Piers doesn’t get. It’s the bit I didn’t get on first viewing.

Fuentes isn’t trying to govern. He’s performing.

The transgression is the point.

He’s doing irony, shock, meme culture, attention warfare, clown-chaos energy.

He’s having those private jokes hidden in WhatsApp groups in public. He’s what you see on your Instagram reels.

We know the jokes because we see and hear them, maybe we’ve laughed, but when they are said in public we’re duty bound to show moral outrage. So when Fuentes says “Yes, I’m a racist”, by the old rules the boomers are disgusted, yet the Groypers are laughing because we’re outraged.

And boomer Piers fell for every trap.

Every moral lecture, every dramatic reaction, every attempt to expose Fuentes…

…is free marketing.

Piers thinks he’s punishing him. He’s actually distributing him.

We’re playing monopoly by different rules.

We think we’re winning because we bought Mayfair.

He doesn’t care about the fucking board.

He’s not playing for prestige.

He’s not playing for office.

He’s playing for freedom, the freedom to speak without caring about consequences, which older generations simply do not understand.

When someone has nothing to lose in your system, your system has no power over them.

Nihilism Makes Sense When You Look at It Properly

If you strip away the genuinely extreme stuff, and it is extreme, underneath it you find something simpler. A generation saying:

“Stop blaming us for things we didn’t do.”

“Stop lying to us about the consequences of your decisions.”

“Stop using us as emotional collateral.”

“Stop pretending the world works when we’re living in the evidence that it doesn’t.”

It’s not ideological.

It’s not coherent.

It’s not even a “movement.”

It’s a refusal.

A cultural shrug.

A massive “No thanks.”

A rejection of the deal on the table.

The Dad Moment

As a Dad there is a moment you realise you’re not cool anymore. And it hits fast.

I used to be cool. I skateboarded, went to punk gigs, took drugs. I genuinely believed my kids were lucky and got the cool Dad.

Then one day your teenager looks at you the way you looked at your Dad. You aren’t cool, you’re embarrassing.

• Your jokes? Shit.

• Your music? Shit.

• Your clothes? “Let’s take you shopping, Dad”

And you feel it. That shift. You’ve crossed the threshold. You’re not in their world anymore.

Which is why I didn’t write any of this expecting applause from Gen Z.

I might have nailed this.

I might be wildly wrong.

It might just be cope.

Even if I’m right, even if some Gen Z kid reads this and goes, “Yeah fair point”, the reaction will still be:

“Cool story? Fuck off boomer.”

The irony is that it’s my generation that needs to write an essay explaining it, their generation can probably post a meme in 10 seconds which does the same job.

(Fuck I’m old).

They don’t need us to understand them. We’re not their audience.

It’s their world now. We’re just background noise.

The New Voting Bloc

This is another part the media keeps missing:

Fuentes’ real power isn’t ideological, it’s demographic.

Like Andrew Tate before him, he appeals to a massive group of young men who feel:

• Economically screwed

• Culturally blamed

• Politically homeless

• Institutionally abandoned

This isn’t a movement.

It’s not a party.

They might not be able to articulate it themselves.

But it’s a bloc, a bloc built on resentment and refusal.

A group saying:

“We didn’t break this. But we’re the ones living in the wreckage.”

Ignore that bloc and you lose a generation.

The UK Version: Zack Polanski

Britain won’t produce a Fuentes. Different culture, different history. If we tried we’d put them in jail for hurty words. Also, it just isn’t British to be so brash. Tate tried it but had to fly around the world to avoid the Ministry of Truth.

But we do have our own version of the energy, and weirdly, it’s coming from people like Zack Polanski in the Green Party.

Not politically similar.

Not stylistically similar.

Not philosophically similar.

But the same vibe:

A sense that young people no longer trust the institutions and will rally behind whoever sounds like they’re speaking outside the script. Anarchist, rebellious, communist, it doesn’t matter, speak my language and give me hope.

This isn’t left v right anymore.

It’s establishment v everyone else.

No Country for Old Men - Or Old Rules

Watching Piers I realised I was watching No Country for Old Men.

The final scene divides generations,

It isn’t about heroism.

It’s about an old sheriff realising the world has changed and there’s nothing he can do about it.

I never understood it at the time.

I understand it now.

When Bell visits Cousin Ellis, he’s forced to confront that the world was never as orderly or moral as he imagined; violence and madness have always been with them. That’s the Piers–Fuentes dynamic: an older generation insisting today’s extremism is some shocking new evil, when really it’s the same old chaos wearing a new face, the boomers have just finally reached the point where they can’t understand the world they’re living in anymore.

No Country for Old Men never shows you the perspective of the younger generation. You never hear what they think of the world they’re inheriting. You never get their moral reasoning, their grievances or their worldview. The entire story is told through Sheriff Bell - a man watching the future arrive and realising, with growing dread, that he no longer understands it.

Watching Piers v Fuentes back with this lens, you realise that Piers is Sheriff Bell. And now I am cousin Ellis telling him the truth, the world was always like this Piers.

And that’s the real parallel with Fuentes. Boomers look at him and think he’s the rupture. They can’t hear the generation behind him, so they project all their fears onto his silhouette. They think he’s the crisis when he’s merely the visible crack in a system they handed down already broken.

This is what a civilisation looks like when the next generation stops believing a single word the adults say. This is what happens when the institutions rot from the inside and refuse to admit it. This is what happens when you break the world and hand the wreckage to your children.

Fuentes isn’t the crisis. He’s the smoke coming out of the engine.

The crisis is that millions of young people feel the same way he does and they feel that way because we gave them every reason to.

Ignore it if you want.

Mock it if you want.

Call it fascism, call it extremism, call it whatever helps you sleep.

But understand this: a society does not survive when its young stop believing in it.

And ours already has.

There’s no going back until we face that.

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